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Izveidoja · 28.06.2011 · 9 ziņas
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Autors#1
28.06.2011 15:25
Kādreiz bija tā, ka piem. BT651 uz Londonu arī pieteicās kā BT651 vai arī Baltic 651. Bet tagad (īstenībā jau kādu laiku) pamanu, ka RIX lapā rakstīts reiss ir BT651, bet pie ATC piesakās kā Baltic 6G1 (flightradar lapā uzrādās kā BTI6G1). Jautājusm zinātājiem: kāpēc tas tagad tā ir? Kāpēc tas nav novērojams visiem reisiem? Un kā atšifrēt, kas piem. ir RYR1ZE (labi, flightradarā var redzēt, ka tas ir FR2643 uz Londonu). Bet vai tur ir kāda sakarība?
#2
28.06.2011 16:53
Cik zinu, dažreiz ir problēmas ar gandrīz identiskiem callsign reisiem, kas izlido/ielido vienā laikā. Skaidrības labad vienam nomaina callsign uz savādāku.
#3
28.06.2011 17:10
airBaltiks BTI6G1 Londonas reisam lieto jau kādus gadus 3, tākā viņi netiek pamainīti atkarībā no traffika daudzuma, tā ir tāda sistēma aviokompānijām, kuru sauc ''Alphanumeric callsigns'' kuru dažas aviokompānijas tostarp BT un RYR ir ieviesušas.
#4
28.06.2011 18:40
Bet kā tad īsti atšifrēt? Piem. kas tas par reisu ir BTI3CL?
#5
28.06.2011 22:51
Jorsh rakstīja
Bet kā tad īsti atšifrēt? Piem. kas tas par reisu ir BTI3CL?
BTI3CL ir uz Viļņu jeb no, īsti neatceros
#6
28.06.2011 23:45
Man šķiet, ka bija Rīga - Tallina. Bet nu arī varu kļūdīties un tas nav nemaz tik svarīgi doatajā momentā. Svarīgākais - vai ir tiem parastajiem ciparu call-signiem un alpha-numuriem kāda sakarība, lai tā vienkārši varētu pateikt, ka lūk 3CL ir 363?
#7
29.06.2011 19:13
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Man šķiet, ka bija Rīga - Tallina. Bet nu arī varu kļūdīties un tas nav nemaz tik svarīgi doatajā momentā. Svarīgākais - vai ir tiem parastajiem ciparu call-signiem un alpha-numuriem kāda sakarība, lai tā vienkārši varētu pateikt, ka lūk 3CL ir 363?
Gan jau kaut kāda sakarība ir, bet ne konkrēts burts aizstāj konkrētu ciparu. Piemēram Rīga-Roma ir BTI631(BTI6NG), bet Roma-Rīga ir BTI632(BTI6MC)
#8
02.07.2011 02:44
Skaidrojums par Ryaniem no pprune.org/spectators-balcony-…: There's a very good reason for it all... Each time a new route is loaded into the system the people in scheduling allocate flight numbers for a particular route. These people are not concerned with callsigns...their only aim is to maximise use of the aircraft. The route starts operating and the flightplans are filed accordingly. The callsigns will be the same as the flightplans. If it turns out that a particular flight is operating at the same time as another with a similar callsign then most likely ATC will ask for it to be changed. They do this in a number of ways such as contacting the operations dept directly or by asking the flight crew to advise operations of the similarity. The callsign is then changed to something different. So take the example of RYR9911 becoming RYR99TR and RYR9912 becoming RYR35LK. It is most likely that operations were made aware of RYR9911 having a similar callsign to another flight for example on 1st September so the flightplans are changed to a new callsign. Then the schedule changes at the end of october and it turns out that RYR9912 now has a similar callsign to some other flight so that gets changed too. They dont necessarily look at the outbound callsign to get ideas for the inbound. In addition the other flight could have a callsign also beginning with the numbers 99 so it gets changed to something totally different. The callsigns used are mostly random however it is also quite common for the person doing the refiling to use their initials in the latter part of the callsign. They also use the last two letters of the aircraft operating the flight on the day that they are asked to refile. It is very possible that EIDLK was operating RYR9912 when the callsign was changed to RYR35LK. In other cases they simply reverse the callsign. An example is RYR552 DUB-MAN is RYR5WT and on the way back to DUB as RYR553 it's RYR5TW...these would most likely have been changed on the same day. Another example of this is when aircraft are being delivered from boeing the callsign is always RYR800 followed by the last letter of the aircraft registration. ie EIEBF would be RYR800F and EIEBG would be RYR800G. I hope this goes some way to answering your question.
#9
02.07.2011 19:59
Ryanairs jā viņus bieži maina, bet kā tad ar baltiku kuram BTI6G1/BTI65T uz Londonu stāv jau ~4 gadus? un vispār cik esmu ievērojis baltiks visu savu pastāvēšanas gadu laikā nav nereizi viņus pamainījis, tādi kādi bija pirms 5 gadiem, tādi ir tagad.. Un šo sistēmu lieto tikai nedaudz aviokompānijas, žetons tam kurš ieraudzīs callsignu ar ciparu norwegianam (scheduled lidojumam) :)
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